D Nuts || August 9, 2007
To truly study a local music scene, its media deserves an unflinching eye. From papers to radio stations, from blogs to bulletins, the music story, whether we like it or not, is often about the storytellers. Sadly, the most deserving Dallas target of such attention as of late happens to be Jonanna Widner, the former Fort Worthian who returned to Texas to take over my position as Dallas Observer music editor last year. Quite frankly, any Dd slags in her direction come off as oddly and awkwardly as John Kerry diatribes about George Bush. You know?
So for the most part, I've restrained myself and let her work do the talking--letting great local stories and concert announcements slip by, failing to research the history of bands she has written about, allowing concert and club listings to become a mess, writing repeat stories about a very narrow subset of DdFW's ridiculously diverse pool of acts...I have private complaints as well, but those, even more than that list, come from the music editor in me, not the music fan.
Thankfully, this week's music column has alarmed the Web editor in me, which is a first, so I'm taking advantage. Her column is dedicated to the fracas that consumed We Shot JR last week. In short, WSJR's very long feature about the band Matthew and the Arrogant Sea included the lead singer's claim that the band was part of a pending $6 million distribution deal with EMI. The rest of the band came on the site a day later to kabosh this claim, and between each of these posts, hundreds of reader comments popped up, many of which cast doubt and talked trash.
After copying and pasting a good many of these comments, Widner goes on to express outrage and shock that so many people could post such nasty, mean things. "What does this have to do with music?" she asks, panting, short of breath.
I've got a few more questions than that. How about some context? You could explain that We Shot JR is, and has always been, the local music scene's Beyond Thunderdome--a chaotic desert of anonymous comment banter, held together by the often acidic but always thoughtful posts, tips and opinions of site founder "StonedRanger." And as anybody who's been to the site at least more than three times can attest to, many of the outsider posts can be ignored for the bullshit they really are. A few musicians around town have confided in me that they post rude, crude and weird stuff just for the hell of it.
Since when is this fucking news? People who type crap on their computers and click the "anonymous" button might--WHOA NOW--not entirely mean it? This is 2007. Giving anonymous readers that much credit for their opinions is like leaving your cell phone on when you go to a movie. The concept isn't new anymore. You have no excuse.
That being said, real conversations can be found between the anon shouts. So it's sad to see Widner ask, "Why the fuck would anyone want to engage in an environment wherein the slightest move gets you bombarded by toxic fallout?" The answer, of course, is that there is a conversation to engage in on sites like We Shot JR. No membership, no screened content, no wondering whether or not your contribution will be seen. You click and it's there. And truly, that sense of discussion, passion, insight and even tension is much more meaningful to a creative community than Widner's continually hollow statements: "that DFW has no cohesive scene, that Deep Ellum is dying..."
These two half-sentences are as close as the woman gets to not copying and pasting something in the column, and what does she do to back either of these claims up? Nothing. Moves on to a diatribe on the fractured Dallas scene based solely on WSJR's anonymous commenters. Why use the gift of insight to consider the relatively trouble-free associations between varying bands, MCs and performers around North Texas?
But her lack of work, thought and insight is nothing new. The most startling trend of Widner's tenure at the Observer, the thing I hoped would have faded by now, is that her work is a repeat of her face value experience. This is what Dallas music is. These are the actual words listed on the comments thread. These are the 15 local bands I've bothered to see in concert. What I see, I repeat. What I'm given, I put down in the paper. Conversations require work. Copying and pasting does not.
Control+C, control+V. Hey, look. I can do it too.
...ah, there I go with the John Kerry crap again. -SM
So for the most part, I've restrained myself and let her work do the talking--letting great local stories and concert announcements slip by, failing to research the history of bands she has written about, allowing concert and club listings to become a mess, writing repeat stories about a very narrow subset of DdFW's ridiculously diverse pool of acts...I have private complaints as well, but those, even more than that list, come from the music editor in me, not the music fan.
Thankfully, this week's music column has alarmed the Web editor in me, which is a first, so I'm taking advantage. Her column is dedicated to the fracas that consumed We Shot JR last week. In short, WSJR's very long feature about the band Matthew and the Arrogant Sea included the lead singer's claim that the band was part of a pending $6 million distribution deal with EMI. The rest of the band came on the site a day later to kabosh this claim, and between each of these posts, hundreds of reader comments popped up, many of which cast doubt and talked trash.
After copying and pasting a good many of these comments, Widner goes on to express outrage and shock that so many people could post such nasty, mean things. "What does this have to do with music?" she asks, panting, short of breath.
I've got a few more questions than that. How about some context? You could explain that We Shot JR is, and has always been, the local music scene's Beyond Thunderdome--a chaotic desert of anonymous comment banter, held together by the often acidic but always thoughtful posts, tips and opinions of site founder "StonedRanger." And as anybody who's been to the site at least more than three times can attest to, many of the outsider posts can be ignored for the bullshit they really are. A few musicians around town have confided in me that they post rude, crude and weird stuff just for the hell of it.
Since when is this fucking news? People who type crap on their computers and click the "anonymous" button might--WHOA NOW--not entirely mean it? This is 2007. Giving anonymous readers that much credit for their opinions is like leaving your cell phone on when you go to a movie. The concept isn't new anymore. You have no excuse.
That being said, real conversations can be found between the anon shouts. So it's sad to see Widner ask, "Why the fuck would anyone want to engage in an environment wherein the slightest move gets you bombarded by toxic fallout?" The answer, of course, is that there is a conversation to engage in on sites like We Shot JR. No membership, no screened content, no wondering whether or not your contribution will be seen. You click and it's there. And truly, that sense of discussion, passion, insight and even tension is much more meaningful to a creative community than Widner's continually hollow statements: "that DFW has no cohesive scene, that Deep Ellum is dying..."
These two half-sentences are as close as the woman gets to not copying and pasting something in the column, and what does she do to back either of these claims up? Nothing. Moves on to a diatribe on the fractured Dallas scene based solely on WSJR's anonymous commenters. Why use the gift of insight to consider the relatively trouble-free associations between varying bands, MCs and performers around North Texas?
But her lack of work, thought and insight is nothing new. The most startling trend of Widner's tenure at the Observer, the thing I hoped would have faded by now, is that her work is a repeat of her face value experience. This is what Dallas music is. These are the actual words listed on the comments thread. These are the 15 local bands I've bothered to see in concert. What I see, I repeat. What I'm given, I put down in the paper. Conversations require work. Copying and pasting does not.
Control+C, control+V. Hey, look. I can do it too.
...ah, there I go with the John Kerry crap again. -SM












14 Comments:
Thanks for this, Sam.
Thanks for the positive things you said about the blog Sam.
That was the main complaint I had about the article too: it didn't mention the fact that our writing is usually at least somewhat positive in nature, and when it isn't, we try to make it funny or insightful in some way. Whether it ends up being quality or not is for the readers to decide I suppose, but we give it our best most of the time. If you hadn't heard about our blog before you read that article, you might end up thinking that WE wrote some of those comments, since the blog post/comment relationship isn't really explained in the story. Also, we weren't contacted at any time about any of this, which strikes me as a bit odd.
We leave the comments open to anyone to say anything, and althought it often leads to shitty, pointless comments, it has also generated some great criticism, and even broke some local news from time to time.
Widner is obviously a hack, but if she was trying to attack us, then I don't think she'll succeed. It's press for us, and I don't think her arguments will cause us to lose a single reader we already have.
good job, sam.
i was actually wondering when she was going to use her column to trash we shot jr as no one either writing for or commenting on the blog has anything nice to say about her writing. i was excited for the day to come mostly because she's such a hack that the chances of her being able to actually zing anyone were extremely fucking slim.
and i was right. VANILLA (fucking) SKY?
has she already referenced high fidelity? i don't read her drivel weekly but i'm assuming she has. regardless, all she's done is given free publicity to we shot jr and matas. they should collectively send her a pizza. a pizza made of radiant cds and flyers for 10% off tribal armband tats at some place in her beloved deep ellum.
I think what it all boils down to is that Jonanna just plain doesn't care about music. She likes the idea of music. She likes the act of going to a show. But she doesn't really like music. And because she doesn't like music she can't really develop unique thoughts about it. Or something like that...
you know, if there was anything that shattered cohesion, it was Kurt Cobain's guitar...
Though I rarely read her stuff (usually it is because someone has linked me to it), Widner always strikes me as someone who has read a chapter or two or an essay of Chuck Klosterman's stuff and said "hey, even though I have limited knowledge of pop culture and the local scene, I can do that!", most of it just comes off as absent.
Nobody is saying that we (Dd) or WSJR are the be all/end all of local music writing, but at least none of us can be accused of being clueless.
Dd and WSJR are the be all/end all of local music writing. I believe in that statement. I thank you guys for putting forth any effort. I've already told Stonedranger this.
I really think you guys should think about putting out a print version. Forget about the Observer. Leave it in the dust.
it annoys me that theyre actually going to do their own story on the MATAS debacle next week, taking weshotjr's sloppy seconds. if they'd been doing their fucking jobs, they'd have stories of their own to print instead of the bullshit they pump out now.
If anyone remembers back in 1998 when the Oneton.com message boards were in excessive use, these heated debates and such have ALWAYS been around. In fact it got SOOO heated on those boards that they actually eventually just took them down due to threats. However, the content on Oneton really did open my eyes to a lot of new and different music. That's what I use WSJR for. I have learned to ignore the BS.
You know, these complaints only multiply in the face of her DOMA showcase preview feature in this week's edition. Her uneducated, factually inaccurate dismissal of Money Waters is shameful. Her need to spend half of the Steve Austin writeup describing his physical appearance is shocking. Her one sentence blurb about Rose County Fair--the city's best new alt-country act in years--is criminal. Her "I, uh, have no effin' clue" bit about The Frenz is expected. And on and on.
It's not all a wreck, and clueless outsiders will appreciate having any sort of field guide to wade through that they may have never heard of. Still, the mess is best summed up by her need to say anything even remotely kind about leadoff band Mad Mexicans. Just because the public nominated them doesn't mean you can't show some teeth, Scion--er, I mean, Hooters--er, I mean, Observer.
I think the story for next week that she's referring to is a feature I just turned in. It's actually about the New Sabbath Festival, though I did bring up the EMI "deal" since that story is intertwined with the festival now.
I don't think it's sloppy seconds; it's tough for a weekly to scoop a blog that can be instantly updated. I just thought it made more sense for the festival story to come out the week of the festival, and I wasn't able to do two separate stories.
"I don't think it's sloppy seconds; it's tough for a weekly to scoop a blog that can be instantly updated."
isnt that what unfair park is for?
Rockjesse, everything you and the other DO music "journalists" write about is "sloppy seconds". When was the last time the Observer "scooped" anything? While you're slaving away on impassioned articles about Sorta or someone from Chomsky, someone cooler and more knowledgeable than you is writing about bands and artists you couldn't possibly understand, being the self-proclaimed "male chauvinist Philistine" that you are.
Man, I dunno. I'm busting my ass writing for Music, Night & Day and Dish and I think we here in the lesser read sections scoop some here and there in the name of salad competitions, shitty Italian dining, half-baked comic/rap showcases and cat shows. We do what we can, you know.
If someone disagrees with an article, they always write a letter. If someone agrees, however, they nod and turn the page. It's a tough gig. So...in the name of peace and positive reinforcement:
Dear This Blog is Pathetic,
You seem to have a real passion for writing anonymous insults to Jesse Hughey. You used "you're" correctly. Thank you for noticing that we're "slaving away".
It's good, however, to actually read the opinion of someone who LIVES in Dallas, ABOUT Dallas music. I'm glad she moved here, to write about my scene, rather than moving away, to do the same.
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