TREE Nuts || November 15, 2006
*** Exclusive report, must credit Sam Machkovech and http://www.bigdlittled.com ***
Kenny Brattain, owner of Fat Daddy's Sound Shack in Lewisville, has confirmed to bigdlittled.com that he is in the process of reopening the former Trees building at 2709 Elm St. in Deep Ellum.
I was tipped off to a strange MySpace site this afternoon (thanks, Pimplomat) with the username "TreesLives." The account, open only since November 7, touts the eventual reopening of the historic Deep Ellum music venue, but damn, does it seem sketchy at first. Donations are being requested in amounts of $5/$10 a pop to "adopt a brick"--a pretty meager way to handle thousands upon thousands of bucks in monthly rent--and the site declares, "we hope to hire as many of the old staff member [sic] as we can," even though most ex-Trees staffers are employed at the Gypsy Tea Room these days. Could these "donate now" PayPal links just be a big scam?

But the site's photos, purportedly taken just last week, appear legit. I was one of the last to tour the building on the January 2, 2006 afternoon that it was chained up by its landlord, and in these new photos, the message on the whiteboard--"Goodnight, Sweet Moon, Goodnight Forever"--is exactly the same as that January day. Couldn't tell you if the Trees staff left all of those posters up in the upstairs lounge, though, as that stairway was blocked off when I last visited, but the way the old staff was rushed out of the building, I wouldn't be surprised (they had much more expensive equipment to detach and rush out, certainly).
Of course, the photos were also interesting as they had a domain name attached--interactivesoup.com. As the account has been posting vague, "guess who we are" bulletins on MySpace for roughly a week, they couldn't be foolish enough to hide the true answer in a domain name...could they?
By golly, they could.
According to a quick Internet registry lookup, interactivesoup.com is registered to one Kenny Brattain of Lewisville, TX. Why, he's the guy who owns Fat Daddy's Sound Shack, an all-ages rock club in his hometown.
I called Brattain and asked him if he was reopening Trees. He quickly denied it--"Who told you that?" I then laid out the search I'd done and asked if he could confirm or clarify the information. After a long pause, he asked when I'd post my findings ("well, it's a blog, you know...") and then reluctantly confirmed.
"I just wanted Gypsy and the Door not to know who it was, basically," Brattain says, claiming that the MySpace page was meant to gauge public interest in a potential reopening before following through, to see if fans and booking agents still had interest in the venue (and he says they do). "I figured the only person who would [search like that] would be a reporter." Darn tootin', Kenny!
Facts:
* The treeslives page says that "we are going to move our current business into the Trees building," but Brittain says that they'll attempt to run both clubs simultaneously to start out with.
* "We don't know if we can get the CO yet from the city; I don't think it's a condemnable building. That's our only thing, that's why we haven't announced anything."
* In terms of potential cost worries, as the last Trees effort ended in bankruptcy: "I'm not sure what they're used to paying, but this is $1 a square foot, and we negotiated [the landlord] down to 92 cents per square foot."
* The venue could open as early as--Jesus Christ--this New Year's Eve. "We'll obviously not have a liquor license yet."
* Brattain began "aggressively going after" the Trees building "a few weeks ago...we were trying to build up the Lewisville area, but we've spoken to a lot of national booking agents. We have a good reputation up here, we get some big bands, but we'll get basically, as we've been told, anybody riding through Dallas, we can get them [there]."
* Continuing the all-ages credo of Fat Daddy's? "We're gonna stay all ages. Here's how it's all gonna work. You know the stairs? We're gonna check ID on the way up there. We'll check ID at the door, and then when you go up the stairs, your ID's gonna be checked again. You can go upstairs, drink all day long, but when you go back downstairs, you can't bring a drink with you. All ages, meaning even the older people. That way it'll be safe for the kids, and you can still drink."
Keep bigdlittled.com bookmarked for all news updates on the potential reopening of Trees. Of course, the official reopening MySpace page'll probably be a good source as well, but we'll try to find a few more scoops as time goes along. -SM
Kenny Brattain, owner of Fat Daddy's Sound Shack in Lewisville, has confirmed to bigdlittled.com that he is in the process of reopening the former Trees building at 2709 Elm St. in Deep Ellum.
I was tipped off to a strange MySpace site this afternoon (thanks, Pimplomat) with the username "TreesLives." The account, open only since November 7, touts the eventual reopening of the historic Deep Ellum music venue, but damn, does it seem sketchy at first. Donations are being requested in amounts of $5/$10 a pop to "adopt a brick"--a pretty meager way to handle thousands upon thousands of bucks in monthly rent--and the site declares, "we hope to hire as many of the old staff member [sic] as we can," even though most ex-Trees staffers are employed at the Gypsy Tea Room these days. Could these "donate now" PayPal links just be a big scam?

But the site's photos, purportedly taken just last week, appear legit. I was one of the last to tour the building on the January 2, 2006 afternoon that it was chained up by its landlord, and in these new photos, the message on the whiteboard--"Goodnight, Sweet Moon, Goodnight Forever"--is exactly the same as that January day. Couldn't tell you if the Trees staff left all of those posters up in the upstairs lounge, though, as that stairway was blocked off when I last visited, but the way the old staff was rushed out of the building, I wouldn't be surprised (they had much more expensive equipment to detach and rush out, certainly).
Of course, the photos were also interesting as they had a domain name attached--interactivesoup.com. As the account has been posting vague, "guess who we are" bulletins on MySpace for roughly a week, they couldn't be foolish enough to hide the true answer in a domain name...could they?
By golly, they could.
According to a quick Internet registry lookup, interactivesoup.com is registered to one Kenny Brattain of Lewisville, TX. Why, he's the guy who owns Fat Daddy's Sound Shack, an all-ages rock club in his hometown.
I called Brattain and asked him if he was reopening Trees. He quickly denied it--"Who told you that?" I then laid out the search I'd done and asked if he could confirm or clarify the information. After a long pause, he asked when I'd post my findings ("well, it's a blog, you know...") and then reluctantly confirmed.
"I just wanted Gypsy and the Door not to know who it was, basically," Brattain says, claiming that the MySpace page was meant to gauge public interest in a potential reopening before following through, to see if fans and booking agents still had interest in the venue (and he says they do). "I figured the only person who would [search like that] would be a reporter." Darn tootin', Kenny!
Facts:
* The treeslives page says that "we are going to move our current business into the Trees building," but Brittain says that they'll attempt to run both clubs simultaneously to start out with.
* "We don't know if we can get the CO yet from the city; I don't think it's a condemnable building. That's our only thing, that's why we haven't announced anything."
* In terms of potential cost worries, as the last Trees effort ended in bankruptcy: "I'm not sure what they're used to paying, but this is $1 a square foot, and we negotiated [the landlord] down to 92 cents per square foot."
* The venue could open as early as--Jesus Christ--this New Year's Eve. "We'll obviously not have a liquor license yet."
* Brattain began "aggressively going after" the Trees building "a few weeks ago...we were trying to build up the Lewisville area, but we've spoken to a lot of national booking agents. We have a good reputation up here, we get some big bands, but we'll get basically, as we've been told, anybody riding through Dallas, we can get them [there]."
* Continuing the all-ages credo of Fat Daddy's? "We're gonna stay all ages. Here's how it's all gonna work. You know the stairs? We're gonna check ID on the way up there. We'll check ID at the door, and then when you go up the stairs, your ID's gonna be checked again. You can go upstairs, drink all day long, but when you go back downstairs, you can't bring a drink with you. All ages, meaning even the older people. That way it'll be safe for the kids, and you can still drink."
Keep bigdlittled.com bookmarked for all news updates on the potential reopening of Trees. Of course, the official reopening MySpace page'll probably be a good source as well, but we'll try to find a few more scoops as time goes along. -SM












14 Comments:
trees reopening= good
not being able to drink my goddamn beer downstairs= stupid
Will Doug Simmons be handling the booking?
well, if the talent roster that fat daddy's in lewisville is any indication, trees will be open 3 weeks.
Some of the bands that have played at Fat Daddy's Sound Shack.
12 Years Wasted
14 Days
41 Gorgeous Blocks
A Beautiful Red
A Bullet For The Brave
A CHANGE OF PACE
A Foot Ahead
A THORN FOR EVERY HEART
ACTION ACTION
AGAINST ALL AUTHORITY
ALESANA
Already Proud
AUTHORITY ZERO
Barely Blind
Better Than Nothing
BIG D AND THE KIDS TABLE
BRIDES OF DESTRUCTION
Brown Eyed Betrayal
CATHERINE
CHASING VICTORY
Cityview
Common Alibi
Corporate Red
Could Be 9
DAPHNE LOVES DERBY
Darlington
Darth Vato
DESOLE
DROP DEAD GORGEOUS
DV8
Every Other Day
Farther To Fall
Faully
February Heartache
FLEE THE SEEN
FOLLY
Fourth Score
Greatness In Tragedy
GREELY ESTATES
Greyskull
HALIFAX
HEAVY HEAVY LOW LOW
Here's To You On Fire
Hours Behind Eleanor
HOUSTON CALLS
JOSEPHINE
KK Holiday
Less Is More
Little Yellow Box
Lotus
LOVE HATE HERO
MEDINA LAKE
MICHALE GRAVES
Minority
Modred
MORELLO
No Time For Heroes
O' CAPTAIN, MY CAPTAIN
PAULSON
Pictured Reflection
Politically Corrupt
Poster Boy Material
Radosny
Red Letter Union
Red White and Me
Restricted
Reuben Briones and The Soul Destroyers
Rockett Queen
ROYDEN
Running On Empty
Samuel Caldwell's Revenge
Save Radio
Sedna
SELF AGAINST CITY
Shatter The Skyline
SHOWBREAD
Sidekick Mafia
Social Weapon
SOCRATIC
SouthFM
SOTHEYSAY
Spector 45
Strutmore
SULLIVAN
SURBURBAN LEGENDS
Supercell
Swilley
The Cadillac Incident
THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA
THE DOG AND PONY SHOW
The Easy Crowd
The Elliott Project
The Falling View
The Flipside
The Fragility Of
The Goners
The Immigrants
THE JONBENET
THE KNOW HOW
The News Can Wait
THE RECEIVING END OF SIRENS
The S Is Silent
THE STILETTO FORMAL
THOUSAND FOOT KRUTCH
TONY DANZA TAPDANCE EXTRAVAGANZA
TRAPT
TWELVE GAUGE VALENTINE
Twin Jewels
UNDERMINDED
Velma Loves Daphne
VOODOO GLOW SKULLS
WAR OF AGES
WESTBOUND TRAIN
WHOLE WHEAT BREAD
Winter Rose
YESTERDAY'S RISING
hmmmm.... Spector 45 was cool. How did they get in there?
nice scoop, sambonito.
it'll be nice to have trees back, and an all-ages club in ellum is a good idea, even if high-school kids are kind of annoying. just book bands that make it worthwhile. not rockett queen for the love of god.
What a great goodbye message to leave on the door! Still, I'm glad Trees will be re-opened. It's one of those classic Dallas venues.
Interesting.
you can't drink beer downstairs? Does anyone else realize how dumb that is? Based on that alone, I can already tell you that this place is going to suck.
Dumb maybe, but probably necessary for its all-ages status.
fuck all ages. you really think youre going to get that big of an 17 and under crowd?
I can't tell if you mean "you" as in "one" or "you" as in myself and my band. Well, either way, I wasn't thinking of myself, I was just making an observation. If you meant in general, I don't know, but it looks like the bands that've played at (the unfortunately named) Fat Daddy's are in that all-ages vein (i.e. pop punk, skate punk, etc.), so there's a chance that there would be a substantial under-17 crowd. In my experience over the years, the kids would come out of the woodwork for shows in that vein. Maybe certain shows could be 18-and-up so you could drink your beer wherever.
I like the idea of an all-ages club in general, but I agree that Deep Ellum at this point might not be the best place for it. As far as Dallas in general, it seems like something's going to happen. I've heard a lot of talk lately about various people starting stuff and investing in the local music scene. I've heard talk of new clubs moving in, "big-time" investors, and musicians who've come into some money investing in the Dallas music scene. I guess we'll see which ones pan out.
sadf
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